Wednesday, May 18, 2016

Subramanian Swamy : Interview Transcript 3

This transcript of Dr Subramanian Swamy addressing Asharam Bapu disciples is compiled from three different sources of Dr Swamy's visit to Aurangabad, India (MH). The specialty of this address by him lies in simplicity of its home setup and unhurried, detailed exposition on various intrinsic details of Spiritual Guru Asharam Bapu's Jodhpur case.

Dr Subramanian Swamy speaks: 

Friends, wherever I go in or outside India. I find many devotees of Asharam Bapu. Alarmed by such huge number of his disciples; he has been arrested on a false case by misusing political powers and is still in jail. I have known Asharam Bapu personally for many years. Asharam Bapu resisted and put on hold christian missionaries who had arrived from foreign countries to help accelerate conversions in India. He fouled ploys of converting poor people in lieu of monetary benefits, in tribal Gujarat and other areas. This stirred anger and unrest in Vatican. They conveyed this to Sonia Gandhi. Only after this, various ways to defame Asharam Bapu have been initiated. Once, i coincidentally met him while travelling together in plane. I told him that people at helm of power are irritated by him. They can do anything. But Bapu ji was not in fear of anyone or anything. He had extreme faith on God. And eventually my doubting manifested as true.

After bail application had been rejected 3-4 times. I received a message, requesting me to come to Jodhpur jail to meet Babaji. Hence, i went. This was in last May. I met him inside jail and he said, i have declined everyone else. I want you to finish this case. Its my firm belief, that your proceedings would make sure justice to prevail. I told him, bail has already been turned down, rejected four times. So, when i go in for the fifth time in-spite of fact that we will be victorious in the end, i cant vouch for immediate results. Then i read about the case. I noticed, accuser girl after 5 days of said incidence did not file a report at Jodhpur Jail instead she did so at Sarojini Nagar, Delhi. This never happens. Delhi police should have immediately reverted, that you should file report at same claimed place of accusation (Jodhpur). But then Congress government would have added its pressure and made report filed at Delhi. Delhi police sent all relevant documents and report to Jodhpur, where Gehlot (Congress Party) was the CM and he forcibly arrested Bapu ji. Later, newly constructed stories were added to FIR freshly prepared by Jodhpur. It was then that Jodhpur police added clauses that she is below 18 years of age, though rape has not taken place but he touched this girl. Girl says Asharam Bapu touched him yet no one saw it. Her Mother is sitting just outside the door, had the girl shouted (as claimed by her), undoubtedly mother would have come inside. It is now revealed through analysis of telephonic records of the girl's phone that, "said time at which she claims bapu ji touched her, she was not even at alleged place of incident. She was in fact on a long call with one of her friend, who is boy on telephone" Telephonic records show she was at some other place. At the same time, Bapu ji too was actually present at some marriage function as chief guest for the ceremony. Even, Asharam Bapu was not there. This case should be rejected with no delay. (Clapping)

When i went in for bail. I enlisted all judgements by Supreme Court. Person such as Tarun Tejpal, who had been caught red-handed (on CCTV) was given bail in 3 months. Lalu yadav got bail even after being convicted. Just on an appeal. Jaylalitha too could get bail. Everyone is getting bail. And Supreme Court has repeatedly said that,'Jail is exception - Bail is the rule'. Then why is not he being given bail ? Being Check-mate thus, judiciary searched for a new excuse; It told that when all the witnesses have been disposed off after giving statements in court, we are ready to give a bail, this i surmised from various supreme court orders. 

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Then i went in to Jodhpur Jail, out of six principal witnesses 5 have given their statements in court. Sixth one is a woman, she had been served summoned for 8 times but she did not turn up. Police in its reports writes that her whereabouts are unknown, we do not know where she lives. She has changed her residence. On 1st July too she did not turn up. I'm thinking of going again to Jodhpur or Supreme Court. I'm in deliberation over this with my juniors and team. We should be done deciding within this week. I do not think there is much delay now (for Asaram Bapu's acquittal). I would also like to tell all - this case too wont stand. (Clapping) 

Subramanian Swamy also said that Bapu ji is striving to protect Hindu Dhrama since last many years. May be His crime was that He was an obstruction to proselytization. Bapu ji has striven a lot for sustenance of Hindu Dharma. We (Hindus) do not have ill feelings towards anyone. In this country, we have worked for so many people. Yahudis, who are also called Jews have been harassed and prosecuted everywhere in this world but India, is the only country where they were not abused.

Hence, the first proposal that was passed in the parliament of Israel after its formation was - Hail to you, O Great India. You have been the only country where Jews were never persecuted or killed. Hitler killed 6 million Jews in gas chambers. When Islam invaded Iran , the native Parsis (one of Zoroastrian fire worshipping communities ) were maltreated .They escaped to all parts of the world but are alive even today only in India. They are everywhere in India. Our Supreme Court Chief Justice -S. H. Kapadia is a Parsi. Commander in Chief Sam Manekshaw too was parsi. Attorney- General Soli Sorabjee too is a Parsi. They are everywhere in India. Their population is a mere 60,000 but still they never faced any trouble in India. When British were leaving India they said to the Parsis - you are so less in numbers and Hindus have an staggering majority. We'll provide you reservations like that provided to Anglo-Indian community. They said Hindus have looked after us for a 1000 years .We do not need you please go away from this country. This is our culture.

Christians want to change this inherent culture by conversion. World has by today, seen 40 different major cultures. Such as that of Rome, Greece, Egypt, Mesopotamia . But all of these are extinct now. Out of 40 - 35 have been lost. No one should forget that only Hindu Culture has outlived all. This is so because the base of our religion does not find its roots unto some prophet or even saints, All our scriptures that our saints penned down has been after direct communion with god. We cannot pin down our paths to one single prophet or messenger. When scope for change arises, barring Vedas everything else can be changed (to reflect present socio-cultural ethos) by mutual discussion or debate. So Bapu ji has struggled a lot for protecting such Hindu dharma & culture. Stay strong ,don't be disheartened. There are many examples in our history .Shri Ramachandraji was exiled for 14 years. why ? else demon Ravana could not have been killed. For very similar reasons He went to jail. You'll get to know it when Bapu ji comes out. Do not worry , I'll not leave this case till He is out of the jail

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